God vs Science

'Let me explain the problem science has with religion.' The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand. 'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?' 'Yes sir, 'the student says. 'So you believe in God?' 'Absolutely.' 'Is God good?' 'Sure! God's good.' 'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?' 'Yes' 'Are you good or evil?' 'The Bible says I'm evil.' The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible!’ He considers for a moment. 'Here's one for you.. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?' 'Yes sir, I would.' 'So you're good...!' ‘I wouldn't say that.' 'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.' The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Can you answer that one?' The student remains silent. 'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax. 'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?' 'Er..yes,' the student says. 'Is Satan good?' The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.' 'Then where does Satan come from?' The student falters. 'From God' 'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?' 'Yes, sir..' 'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?' 'Yes' 'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil..' Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?' The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.' 'So who created them?' The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. 'Who created them?' There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?' The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.' The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?' 'No sir. I've never seen Him.' 'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?' 'No, sir, I have not..' 'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?' 'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.' 'Yet you still believe in him?' 'Yes' 'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist... What do you say to that, son?' 'Nothing,' the student replies.. 'I only have my faith.' 'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.' The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat?' 'Yes. ’ 'And is there such a thing as cold?' 'Yes, son, there's cold too.' 'No sir, there isn't.' The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. 'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit down to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.' Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer. 'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?' 'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation.. 'What is night if it isn't darkness?' 'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?' The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?' 'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.' The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you explain how?' 'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains.. 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.' 'It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.' 'Now tell me, professor.. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?' 'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.' 'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?' The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed. 'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?' The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided. 'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.' The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter. 'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir.' 'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?' Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I Guess you'll have to take them on faith.' 'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?' Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it Everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in The multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.' To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself.. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.' The professor sat down. If you read it all the way through and had a smile on your face when you finished, mail to your friends and family with the title 'God vs. Science' PS: the student was Albert Einstein. Albert Einstein wrote a book titled God vs. Science in 1921...

Understanding the true meaning of Christmas

Where is YOUR heart?


Let us stop and ponder for a moment (or as long as it takes for us) to REALLY understand the deep significance of Jesus birth.

It isn't WHAT WE can DO for God, rather it is WHAT HE has done for us.

There is nothing that we can do to buy our way to Heaven. We could give to missions til the cows come home, we could give tons of money and time...yet that won't get us any closer to Heaven.

So what WILL?

It is giving of our HEART to Jesus. It is in SURRENDERING our will, our life, our heart over to Jesus and allowing HIM to have control over us in every area of our lives....our choices, our desires, our wants, our relationships, our habits and so on. It means to humble ourselves before Him. That means to empty ourselves of our self-centeredness and allow HIM to have complete control over our tongue, our actions and our focus in life.

So many people just go about life as if God didn't exist. At least from all appearaces of their actions and what comes from their lips is concerned. How is YOUR life compared to what God wants from YOU? This would be a good time to reevaluate your WALK and see if there is something that needs to be tended to. Let this New Year be a time of renewing of your mind, heart and life.

Psalm 139:

²³ Search me, God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
²⁴ See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting.

A VETERANS DAY POEM

A POEM WORTH READING 
 And sharing! 
 (Author unknown) 
 

 
 He was getting
 Old and paunchy
 And his hair was falling fast,
 And he sat around the Legion,
 Telling stories of the past.

 Of a war that he once fought in
 And the deeds that he had done,
 In his exploits with his buddies;
 They were heroes, every one.

 And 'tho sometimes to his neighbors
 His tales became a joke,
 All his buddies listened quietly *
 *For they knew whereof he spoke.

 But we'll hear his tales no longer,
 For old Bob has passed away,
 And the world's a little poorer
 For a Soldier died today.

 He won t be mourned by many,
 Just his children and his wife.
 For he lived an ordinary,
 Very quiet sort of life.

 He held a job and raised a family,
 Going quietly on his way;
 And the world won't note his passing,
 'Tho a Soldier died today.

 When politicians leave this earth,
 Their bodies lie in state,
 While thousands note their passing,
 And proclaim that they were great.

 Papers tell of their life stories
 From the time that they were young
 But the passing of a Soldier
 Goes unnoticed, and unsung.

 Is the greatest contribution
 To the welfare of our land,
 Someone who breaks his promise
 And cons his fellow man?>
 Or the ordinary fellow
 Who in times of war and strife,
 Goes off to serve his country
 And offers up his life?

 The politician's stipend
 And the style in which he lives,
 Are often disproportionate,
 To the service that he gives.

 While the ordinary Soldier,
 Who offered up his all,
 Is paid off with a medal
 And perhaps a pension, small.

 It is not the politicians
 With their compromise and ploys,
 Who won for us the freedom
 That our country now enjoys.

 Should you find yourself in danger,
 With your enemies at hand,
 Would you really want some cop-out,
 With his ever waffling stand?

 Or would you want a Soldier--
 His home, his country, his kin,
 Just a common Soldier,
 Who would fight until the end?

 He was just a common Soldier,
 And his ranks are growing thin,
 But his presence should remind us
 We may need his like again.

 For when countries are in conflict,
 We find the Soldier's part
 Is to clean up all the troubles
 That the politicians start.

 If we cannot do him honor
 While he's here to hear the praise,
 Then at least let's give him homage
 At the ending of his days.

 Perhaps just a simple headline
 In the paper that might say:
 "OUR COUNTRY IS IN MOURNING,
 A SOLDIER DIED TODAY." *
 *
 *
 *Pass On The Patriotism!
 YOU can make a differen*

Devine Coconut Cake

This cake was first served at our monthly W.O.W. (Women of Wisdom)

luncheon on April 2, 2004 at Northshore Baptist Church in Bothell, WA.

It was THE most TO DIE FOR cake I have ever tasted. (Originally From

Your're Invited (The Junior League of Raleigh, North Carolina) )

Lynn

Devine Coconut Cake

1 box butter cake mix (Duncan Hines)

1-3/4 cups sugar

2 cups sour cream

4 cups (about 1 medium) grated fresh coconut or 2 (6-ounce) packages

frozen coconut, thawed

1 package whipped topping, prepared according to package directions

OR

1 1/2 cups Cool Whip, thawed

* Preheat oven to 350F

*Prepare cake mix according to package directions *Spoon batter into 2

greased and floured 8-inch round cake pans.

*Bake in center of oven for 30 to 34 minutes or until wooden pick inserted

in center of cake comes out clean.

*Cool in pan for 10 mintues. Remove to wire rack and cool completely

*Split cake layers in half. Combine sugar, sour cream and coconut.

Reserve 1-cup sour cream mixture for frosting. Spread remainder of sour

cream mixture between layers, split sides up.

*Combine reserved sour cream mixture with whipped topping. Blend until

smooth. Spread on top and sides of cake

*Seal cake in an airtight container adn refrigerate for 3 days prior to

serving.

Yield: 16 servings

Suggestion for container: Find one tall enough to accomdate the cake as it is

taller than many cake containers.

Crabby Old Man by an old man in Nebraska

When an old man died in the geriatric ward of a nursing
home in
North Platte, Nebraska, it was believed that he had nothing left of
any value.

Later, when the nurses were going through his meager
possessions,
they found this poem. Its quality and content so impressed the staff
that copies were made and distributed to every nurse in the
hospital. One nurse took her copy to Missouri .

The old man's sole bequest to posterity has since appeared
in the
Christmas edition of the News Magazine of the St. Louis Association
for Mental Health. A slide presentation has also been made based on
his simple, but eloquent, poem.

And this little old man, with nothing left to give to the
world, is
now the author of this 'anonymous' poem winging across the Internet.

Crabby Old Man

What do you see nurses? . . .. .. . What do you see?
What are you thinking . . . . . when you're looking at me?
A crabby old man . . . . . not very wise,
Uncertain of habit . . . . . with faraway eyes?

Who dribbles his food . . . . . and makes no reply.
When you say in a loud voice . . . . . 'I do wish you'd try!'
Who seems not to notice . . .. . . the things that you do.
And forever is losing . . . . . A sock or shoe?

Who, resisting or not . . . . . lets you do as you will,
With bathing and feeding . . . . . The long day to fill?
Is that what you're thinking? . . . . . Is that what you see?
Then open your eyes, nurse .. . . . .. you're not looking
at me.

I'll tell you who I am. . . . . . As I sit here so still,
As I do at your bidding, . . . . . as I eat at your will.
I'm a small child of Ten . . . . . with a father and mother,
Brothers and sisters . . . . . who love one another.

A young boy of Sixteen . . .. with wings on his feet.
Dreaming that soon now .. . . .. . a lover he'll meet.
A groom soon at Twenty . . . . .. my heart gives a leap.
Remembering, the vows . . . . .. that I promised to keep.

At Twenty-Five, now . . . .. . I have young of my own.
Who need me to guide . . . ... . And a secure happy home.
A man of Thirty . . . . . My young now grown fast,
Bound to each other . . . . . With ties that should last.

At Forty, my young sons . . .. . . have grown and are gone,
But my woman's beside me .. . . . . to see I don't mourn.
At Fifty, once more, babies play 'round my knee,
Again, we know children . . . . . My loved one and me.

Dark days are upon me . . . .. . my wife is now dead.
I look at the future . . . . . shudder with dread.
For my young are all rearing . . .. . .. young of their own.
And I think of the years . . . . . and the love that I've
known.

I'm now an old man . . .. . and nature is cruel.
Tis jest to make old age . . .. . . look like a fool.
The body, it crumbles . . . .. .. grace and vigor, depart.
There is now a stone . . . . where I once had a heart.

But inside this old carcass .. . . . . a young guy still
dwells,
And now and again . . .. . . my battered heart swells.
I remember the joys . . .. . . I remember the pain.
And I'm loving and living . . ... . . life over again.

I think of the years, all too few . . . . . gone too fast.
And accept the stark fact .. . . that nothing can last.
So open your eyes, people .. . . . open and see.
Not a crabby old man .. . . Look closer . . . see ME!!


Remember this poem when you next meet
an older person who you might brush aside
without looking at the young soul within.
We will all, one day, be there, too!

PLEASE SHARE THIS POEM

The best and most beautiful things of
this world can't be seen or touched.
They must be felt by the heart.

50th Anniversary Celebration

August 5, 1960 - 2010
Our wedding photo.

Our 50th Anniversary photo.

Linda made our anniversary cake to emmulate our wedding cake. This was her first attempt at making such a big fancy cake! She did a fabulous job and it tasted better than our wedding cake too!

The Whole Self Family on the left and the extended family on the right! Pastor Steve sharing and Marilyn Mitchell sang "Find Us Faithful" for us.

Find Us Faithful

We're pilgrims on the journey
Of the narrow road
And those who've gone before us line the way
Cheering on the faithful, encouraging the weary
Their lives a stirring testament to God's sustaining grace

Surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses
Let us run the race not only for the prize
But as those who've gone before us
Let us leave to those behind us
The heritage of faithfulness passed on through godly lives

CHORUS:
Oh may all who come behind us find us faithful
May the fire of our devotion light their way
May the footprints that we leave
Lead them to believe
And the lives we live inspire them to obey

Oh may all who come behind us find us faithful

After all our hopes and dreams have come and gone
And our children sift through all we've left behind
May the clues that they discover and the memories they uncover
Become the light that leads them to the road we each must find

REPEAT CHORUS

Oh may all who come behind us find us faithful
Oh may all who come behind us find us faithful

Thomas Jefferson - Smart Man

How could one man be so

smart about the future this

many years ago?

THIS IS SO RELEVANT !! John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone." Especially read the last quote from 1802. When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe . Thomas Jefferson The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. Thomas Jefferson I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. Thomas Jefferson The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson said in 1802: 'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.' I WISH WE COULD GET THIS OUT TO EVERYONE!!!

Out of Destruction, Beauty Immeasurable!

Posted on May 18, 2010
Filed Under Personal, Theology | by Del Tackett - from the Truth Project

“Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.”
2 Peter 3:3-7

I am in Florida for filming but just returned from a short trip to the awesome parks near Moab Utah. I know people hate to see “home movies” so to speak, but I thought someone might be interested to see the wonders that God brings out of disaster.


I know my perspective may differ from others on this, but I am more and more convinced that the sedimentary layers that we see all over the world are the evidence of the great flood that God brought upon the world in the days of Noah.

2 Peter 3 makes the case that the evidence of this great destruction and tumult is available for us to see and that mockers overlook it—in essence saying that everything is just a uniform process all the way back.

But that is not true.

Verse 5 says that what “escapes their notice” is that there was a major catastrophe in the past, one that destroyed the world at that time and the earth was flooded.

That is why whenever I see these layers exposed, it reminds me of the awesome power of God that was on display when the earth shook with His judgment and that it will shake again someday.


Our “Group” took a few days to camp at Dead Horse Point State Park and visit Arches National Monument and Canyonlands National Park.

In one part of Arches, there is about a mile hike through “Park Avenue”. It is a “gawking” hike, through a canyon of spires and walls, balanced rocks and strange formations. It is a desolate kind of place, yet there the cactus were in bloom and flowers seemed to find a way to exist.

Out of this “destruction”, God has graciously given us awesome beauty and majesty.

Typical of Him, no?

Mother's Day!

Julie took this picture of me on Mother's Day!Flowers from Linda and Naomi. Picture of me at around age 2 years looking at my Gram's big pink roses and colored by Brian was a card Brian gave me and on the inside of it was singing "Oh What a Beautiful Morning" from Oklahoma which I used to sing to the kids while they ate breakfast around the big oak table that my Dad made back in high school; and I was standing at the kitchen sink singing that song to them. What memories these brought back to me. Brian gave me a lovely windchime to hang out on the front porch. Kevin and Rachel gave methe little handprints of Isaac on a lovely canvas tied with a bow. Karen and Steve sent me a lovely bouquet of roses and carnations.

Mother's Day!

Julie took this picture of me on Mother's Day!
Flowers from Linda and Naomi. Picture of me at around age 2 years looking at my Gram's big pink roses and colored by Brian was a card Brian gave me and on the inside of it was singing "Oh What a Beautiful Morning" from Oklahoma which I used to sing to the kids while they ate breakfast around the big oak table that my Dad made back in high school; and I was standing at the kitchen sink singing that song to them. What memories these brought back to me. Brian gave me a lovely windchime to hang out on the front porch. Kevin and Rachel gave me the little handprints of Isaac on a lovely canvas tied with a bow. Karen and Steve sent me a lovely bouquet of roses and carnations.

Mother's Day Gifts from Karen & Kev and Familes

Flowers from Karen and Steve and family ...

Handprints from Kevin and Rachel and Isaac

The Power of Your Name - by Unknown

Verse 1
Surely children weren't made for the streets
And Fathers were not made to leave
Surely this isn't how it should be
Let Your kingdom come

Verse 2
Surely nations were not made for war
Or the broken and due to be ignored
Surely this couldn't be what You saw
Let Your kingdom come
Here in my heart

Chorus
And I will live to carry your compassion
To love a world that's broken
To be your hands and feet
And I will give with the life that I've been given
And go beyond religion to see the world be changed
By the power of Your Name
The power of Your Name

Verse 3
Surely life wasn't made to regret
And the lost were not made to forget
Surely faith without action is dead
Let Your Kingdom come
Lord break this heart

Bridge
Jesus Your Name
Is a shelter for the hurting
Your Name
Is a refuge the weak
Only Your Name
Can take the undeserving
Jesus Your Name
Holds everything I need

What an Awesome and Orderly GOD!!

What an awesome and orderly GOD!! God's order may be observed in the hatching of eggs. For example: -the eggs of the potato bug hatch in 7 days; -those of the canary in 14 days; -those of the barnyard hen in 21 days; -The eggs of ducks and geese hatch in 28 days; -those of the mallard in 35 days; -The eggs of the parrot and the ostrich hatch in 42 days. (Notice, they are all divisible by seven, the number of days in a week!) God's wisdom is seen in the making of an elephant.. The four legs of this great beast all bend forward in the same direction. No other quadruped is so made. God ordered that this animal would have a huge body, and for this reason He gave it four fulcrums so that it can rise from the ground easily. The horse rises from the ground on its two front legs first. A cow rises from the ground with its two hind legs first. How wise the Lord is in all His works of creation! God's wisdom is revealed in His arrangement of fruit, vegetable, and grain seed sections and segments, as well as in the number of seeds/grains. -Each watermelon has an even number of stripes on the rind. -Each orange has an even number of segments. -Each ear of corn has an even number of rows. -Each stalk of wheat has an even number of grains. -Every bunch of bananas has on its lowest row an even number of bananas, and each row decreases by one, so that one row has an even number and the next row an odd number. -The waves of the sea roll in on shore twenty-six to the minute in all kinds of weather. All grains are found in even numbers on the stalks, and the Lord specified thirty fold, sixty fold, and a hundredfold - all even numbers. God has caused the flowers to blossom at certain specified times during the day, so that Linnaeus, the great botanist, once said that if he had a conservatory containing the right kind of soil, moisture and temperature, he could tell the time of day or night by the flowers that were open and those that were closed! God gives us a surprise when we cut an apple in half horizontally--there you will find a star! Thus the Lord in His wonderful grace can arrange the life that is entrusted to His care in such a way that it will carry out His purposes and plans, and will be fragrant with His presence. Only the God-planned safe life is successful. Only the life given over to the care of the Lord is fulfilled. The lives of each of us are ordered by the Lord in a beautiful way for His glory, if you will only entrust Him with your life. If you try to regulate your own life, it will only be a mess and a failure. Only the One Who made the brain and the heart can successfully guide us to a profitable end. I HOPE YOU FIND THIS AS FASCINATING AS I DID.....!!!!